I used to frequent Richard Dawkin's website just to keep up with what the debate on atheism. The forums can get pretty hot over there. I read a comment by a Christian that stated, "Faith is the opposite of fear", to which I can only agree. An atheist replied, "No, faith is the opposite of reason!". That was an "a-ha!" moment for me - I suddenly realized why so many atheists mock "faith". They don't understand what faith is - they mistake it for superstition. They're attacking a straw man. Sadly, walk into a church today and it's surprisingly hard to find anyone who understands what faith is. If faith were what this particular atheist thinks it is, I would mock it too.
So what is faith? Is it:
1. Geographic/Cultural/Family Background Determinism - "I was raised that way"?
So if you'd been raised a Hindu would the "truth" have turned out differently? Truth doesn't change just because a particular person was born in a particular country.
2. Circular Reasoning - "I read it, so it must be true." ?
"I know the Bible is true because the Bible says the Bible is true, and since the Bible never lies, it must be telling the truth when it says it's the truth; therefore...")
"I know the Koran is true because the Koran says the Koran is true, and since the Koran never lies, it must be telling the truth when it says it's the truth; therefore..."
"I know the [insert holy book here] is true because the [insert holy book here] says the [insert holy book here] is true, and since the [insert holy book here] never lies, it must be telling the truth when it says it's the truth; therefore..."
3. Hell Insurance - "I'm afraid not to believe." ?
Since the idea of rotting in the grave is not nearly as scary as the idea of burning in Hell forever, isn't believing the safest thing to do?
Believing in what? Couldn't a Muslim say the same thing? Any "faith" that can't distinguish between two contradictory belief systems is not one I'd be willing to bet my soul on.
Genuine Faith
Ironically, the best illustration of what Christian faith was meant to be (in my understanding) came from an atheist, Carl Sagan. Here is a quote from Dr. Arroway, a character in his novel "Contact":
"My faith says that the amplitude of a free pendulum--how far it'll swing away from the vertical position--can never increase. It can only decrease. I'm willing to go out there, put the bob in front of my nose, let go, have it swing away and then back toward me. If my beliefs are in error, I'll get a five-hundred-pound pendulum smack in the face. Come on. You want to test my faith?"
Dr. Arroway proceeded to pass her test of faith (although it gave her quite a scare to see that five-hundred-pound pendulum rushing at her face). Of course she had no faith in God, but she did have faith in the laws of physics - genuine faith, although not a saving faith, because the laws of physics can't get you into Heaven! This example illustrates two ingredients which I believe are characteristic of a strong, genuine faith:
(1) It has a reasonable basis: there must be enough evidence to indicate that it is more likely than not to be true.
(2) It requires courage: after all, you can't see the "laws of physics" any more than you can see God!
Another story I once heard that illustrates faith quite well involves a man and his wife being taken on a tour of the U.S. Mint in Denver. The guide brought out a pail of molten metal and told them that if you wet your finger with saliva, you could dip your finger in the pail without burning yourself as long as you removed it quickly. Then he asked them if they wanted to try. The husband begged off: "I believe you, but..." The wife just smiled, wet her finger, and dipped it in into the pail.
The husband didn't think the guide was a liar - he believed him (as the term "believe' has been defined in modern times) but only the wife had faith. That illustrates the third feature of what I understand genuine faith to be:
(3) It always responds with action.
Faith is not created by action - in fact it must precede action - but action is the only way to prove it - to yourself or to anyone else.
So how can a Christian have faith that the Bible is true without resorting to the cowardly exercise in circular reasoning described above? I would argue that it must begin with skepticism - reason, believe it or not (and no, atheists do not have a copyright on either of those words). Skepticism doesn't mean "I only believe what I can see." Some (not all) atheists are pseudo-skeptics - "I don't believe in God because I can't see him". But they believe in radio waves, electrons, magnetism... Rather, skepticism means "prove it to me".
I don't believe in God because the Bible says so. I couldn't believe until I had external corroboration - I needed experiential evidence from outside the Bible in order to accept not only God, but Christianity as well.
Any commentators out there? Anyone of any belief *or lack thereof) is welcome to comment. Why do you believe whatever it is that you believe? What do you think faith is?
Thursday, November 6, 2014
Why Zombies Disprove Scientific Materialism -- Guest Post by Todd Gnarly, Super-Fundie
The Einstein Pool, a science fiction novel by Jake Danger
Bear with me for a paragraph or two while I explain a philosophical concept with very immediate relevance to all of us:
Imagine a universe parallel to this one. Exactly the same down to the last molecule, the last event, the last quark. In this universe, at this very moment, there's a parallel Todd Gnarly writing a parallel blog entry. There is absolutely no difference whatsoever between the two universes. Except one. Parallel Todd (and all the other parallel people) has no subjective consciousness - he's a zombie. Zombie Todd perfectly mimics my actions and can carry on a conversation just as I can. But there's nothing inside - no subjective experience. He has no more subjective consciousness than an image in a mirror does.
Scientifically speaking, what is the difference between this parallel universe full of zombies and the universe we actually live in? The only answer can be - none whatsoever. No technique that has ever been devised (or could ever be devised) by science could ever tell the difference between the two. It is this Zombie Universe that science describes, not the real universe we live in. Subjective experience is the ghost in the machine, the reality that objectivity-based science ignores because it lacks the tools to investigate it. In a word, the scientific materialists who insist that physicality = existence are confusing the map with the terrain. That is precisely why scientific materialism can never be a complete explanation of the phenomenon of existence - it explains everything except...everything.
Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False by Thomas Nagel
Bear with me for a paragraph or two while I explain a philosophical concept with very immediate relevance to all of us:
Imagine a universe parallel to this one. Exactly the same down to the last molecule, the last event, the last quark. In this universe, at this very moment, there's a parallel Todd Gnarly writing a parallel blog entry. There is absolutely no difference whatsoever between the two universes. Except one. Parallel Todd (and all the other parallel people) has no subjective consciousness - he's a zombie. Zombie Todd perfectly mimics my actions and can carry on a conversation just as I can. But there's nothing inside - no subjective experience. He has no more subjective consciousness than an image in a mirror does.
Scientifically speaking, what is the difference between this parallel universe full of zombies and the universe we actually live in? The only answer can be - none whatsoever. No technique that has ever been devised (or could ever be devised) by science could ever tell the difference between the two. It is this Zombie Universe that science describes, not the real universe we live in. Subjective experience is the ghost in the machine, the reality that objectivity-based science ignores because it lacks the tools to investigate it. In a word, the scientific materialists who insist that physicality = existence are confusing the map with the terrain. That is precisely why scientific materialism can never be a complete explanation of the phenomenon of existence - it explains everything except...everything.
Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False by Thomas Nagel
Introducing the Society for the Prevention of Mathematical Intolerance
The Einstein Pool: A Christian science fiction novel by Jake Danger $0.99
I have watched with great concern as the Forces of Superstition and Ignorance have run roughshod over the sacred beliefs of so many people. Some bigoted people seem to believe that their way is the only way, their religion is the only religion, and their “truth” is the only truth. This kind of intolerance leads to hurt feelings all around, as Christians have the audacity to tell non-Christians “…you’re wrong” (and vice versa), etc. Can't we all just get along? But I will leave the fight against religious and moral intolerance to others. There is another, little-noticed form of bigotry that has held the minds of men in a vice grip for over two millennia. It's called Mathematical Bigotry.
My first experience with this devastating form of prejudice came when I was a boy of six. My first grade teacher demeaned my mathematical pride when she rigidly imposed her own narrow-minded notions upon one of my best exercises in creative thinking. You see, we had been given a quiz that day, and I had maintained that two plus two equals five - for me, anyway. She had the nerve to insult my individuality by insisting that two plus two equals four, and nothing else. And flunked me. I wonder if I have ever fully recovered from that humiliation. Although I have no objection to people who assert that two plus two equals four - for them - I must object when they attempt to shove their views down everyone else's throat.
In response to this outrage, I formed an association called the Society for the Prevention of Mathematical Intolerance (SPOMI). Its main idea is that two plus two does not necessarily equal four. Rather, two plus two equals whatever you believe it equals, as long as you are sincere in your belief. We have formed strategic alliances with the Two Plus Two Equals Five Society, the Two Plus Two Equals Fifty-Seven Society, the Two Plus Two Equals 137.6 Society, and the Flat Earth Society. SPOMI is currently accepting donations. Cash only, no checks please - for some reason we seem to be having trouble keeping up with how much money is in our bank account…
The Einstein Pool: A Christian science fiction novel by Jake Danger
I have watched with great concern as the Forces of Superstition and Ignorance have run roughshod over the sacred beliefs of so many people. Some bigoted people seem to believe that their way is the only way, their religion is the only religion, and their “truth” is the only truth. This kind of intolerance leads to hurt feelings all around, as Christians have the audacity to tell non-Christians “…you’re wrong” (and vice versa), etc. Can't we all just get along? But I will leave the fight against religious and moral intolerance to others. There is another, little-noticed form of bigotry that has held the minds of men in a vice grip for over two millennia. It's called Mathematical Bigotry.
My first experience with this devastating form of prejudice came when I was a boy of six. My first grade teacher demeaned my mathematical pride when she rigidly imposed her own narrow-minded notions upon one of my best exercises in creative thinking. You see, we had been given a quiz that day, and I had maintained that two plus two equals five - for me, anyway. She had the nerve to insult my individuality by insisting that two plus two equals four, and nothing else. And flunked me. I wonder if I have ever fully recovered from that humiliation. Although I have no objection to people who assert that two plus two equals four - for them - I must object when they attempt to shove their views down everyone else's throat.
In response to this outrage, I formed an association called the Society for the Prevention of Mathematical Intolerance (SPOMI). Its main idea is that two plus two does not necessarily equal four. Rather, two plus two equals whatever you believe it equals, as long as you are sincere in your belief. We have formed strategic alliances with the Two Plus Two Equals Five Society, the Two Plus Two Equals Fifty-Seven Society, the Two Plus Two Equals 137.6 Society, and the Flat Earth Society. SPOMI is currently accepting donations. Cash only, no checks please - for some reason we seem to be having trouble keeping up with how much money is in our bank account…
The Einstein Pool: A Christian science fiction novel by Jake Danger
Paradox of the Day
If God is all-powerful, can he create a stone so heavy even he can't lift it?
If He can't, then He is not all-powerful, because there's something He can't do (create such a stone).
If He can, then He is not all-powerful, because there's something He can't do (lift the stone).
If He can't, then He is not all-powerful, because there's something He can't do (create such a stone).
If He can, then He is not all-powerful, because there's something He can't do (lift the stone).
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